Rare rule upsets two managers in one week, a breakdown
What Happened
In a rare rule enforcement that has not been seen in over 20 years, the Chicago White Sox and New York Yankees both find themselves on the wrong end of an obscure MLB rule in back-to-back games. In the bottom of the 9th inning, the White Sox are trailing the Baltimore Orioles when Orioles closer Craig Kimbrel induces an infield pop-up. White Sox manager Pedro Grifol is stunned when the umpire not only declares the batter out on the infield fly rule, but also calls the runner on second base out for interference. Grifol angrily confronts the umpire, exclaiming "Okay, so what? He caught the fucking ball, no problem." The umpire explains that when the runner was returning to the base, he made contact with the fielder, which constitutes interference by rule. Just a few days later, the same situation unfolds in a game between the Yankees and Los Angeles Angels. With the bases loaded and no outs in the 1st inning, Angels hitter Luis Rengifo pops up a ball that is ruled an infield fly. As Yankees shortstop Anthony Volpe prepares to catch the ball, Angels baserunner Juan Soto accidentally collides with him while trying to get back to the base. The umpires rule Soto out for interference, even though he was attempting to return to the base. Yankees manager Aaron Boone erupts, shouting at the umpires "You're going to look like assholes tonight. MLB is going to come out and say better discretion." Boone argues that since Soto's foot was on the base, the interference call should not have been made. The umpires stand by their ruling, explaining that Soto did not have full possession of the base when contact was made. After the game, MLB reportedly reaches out to the White Sox and acknowledges the umpires could have used better discretion on the controversial call. However, the league states the rulings were technically correct based on the letter of the law. White Sox manager Grifol predicts this obscure rule will continue to cause issues, saying "Now that it happened, I guarantee you we'll see it again because everybody around the league looks at situations like this to create some form of advantage for their club to get a couple outs.".
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Click timestamps to jump to that momentMLB had the same weird rule coming to play twice recently,
and the rule hasn't come into play in 20 or so years.
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There's one out.
The White Sox are looking to come back against the Orioles.
Kimbrell gets infield pop-up.
So the umpire says, that's the infield fly.
Batter's automatically out.
But then he says, and the runner on second is out, double play.
Everyone's a bit confused.
White Sox manager needs an exclamation.
Umpire says, yeah, sure, I'll tell you.
When he was going back to the base, no, he ran into him.
And he says, okay, so what?
He caught the fucking ball, no problem.
And I think that's a perfect reaction from the manager.
Okay, so what?
And the umpire's going to let him know, when you're back in the dugout,
you'll find he's out for interference.
What the fuck?
Come on, man.
Another great reaction.
Okay, so what?
Reaction number one.
Reaction number two.
What the fuck?
And then you guys missed it.
But this umpire with the frowny face,
one of the better umpire appearances we've seen this year.
Just, and then just.
But yeah, Griffall's mad.
He did not impede him from catching the fly ball.
What are you talking about?
And yeah, this is what we're looking at right there.
That's all.
He's casually going back to second base.
The runner's running in and he has to change his route,
which by the rule says that's interference.
And that runner is out.
Now, this rule was put in place back in 2003 or 2005.
Close call sports has a great history of it because it happened once
and they had no idea what to do.
But in that situation, the play wasn't made.
In this situation, he still makes the catch.
So it's kind of ridiculous.
And the manager's got a good point.
He goes, he caught the fucking ball easily.
Come on, man.
What are we doing?
So we need to find the fucking rule.
We need to fix the rule.
I don't know if he's saying,
fix or find.
It could be both.
We need to find the rule.
We need to fix the rule.
After the game, apparently, the White Sox say MLB told them
that umps could have used better discretion on a game ending call like that.
Major League Baseball reportedly reached out to the White Sox
after the controversial ruling and said the call shouldn't have been made per
Jesse Rogers from ESPN.
But by the absolute letter of the law, the ruling was justifiable.
Well, guys, the umpires usually just do what the rule says.
That's their job.
That's a tough.
Response from Major League Baseball.
Like if you want them to use discretion and judgment,
you have to open that book up because umpires naturally they're literalists for the most part.
Then Griffall said, this is going to happen again.
I haven't seen it in 30 years, but now that it happened,
I guarantee you we'll see it again because everybody around the league looks at situations
like this to create some form of advantage for their club to get a couple outs.
So he's like, it's going to happen again.
Infielders are going to run in to runners on purpose to get another out.
Now it did happen again.
Quickly.
He's right about that.
I don't know if it was on purpose, but the Yankees are playing the angels.
The bases are loaded with no outs in the first inning and stands up.
So good opportunity to strike.
Anderson throws it in there.
Stan pops it up right away.
Infield fly is called.
So the batter's out and now he doesn't make the catch.
That does not matter.
But now Soto's out.
Soto saying me, what?
Why am I out?
Um, says you weren't even on the bag.
We saw I did.
Yeah.
Uh, I'm too step.
Behind him.
Boone says he's got to go to the base.
That's, that's what he's got to do there.
And then the umpires get together.
So Boone, he's like, okay, umpires all stand around.
No one say anything yet.
No one say anything.
Let's put our hands to our face.
Okay.
So Soto's just casually going back to the bag realizes, oh shit, I got to go around
him to get my foot there.
He's not looking up.
And then Nito goes down, shows you how strong Soto's base is good for hitting.
If Soto's foot gets to the bag before contacts made, he's in the clear.
But it didn't just by that much.
So then by the letter of the law, that's the ruling that he's out for interference.
Weird.
I don't think that's what they intended, but that is the letter of the law.
Now, Boone, where's he go?
Where's he go?
What do you want him to do?
And the umpires come outside.
He's out at first and the umpires come out and they let him know like, Hey, that's the
rule.
He contacted him.
He can't contact him.
Blah, blah, blah.
Now, Booney's remembering that that's just happened in the white socks game.
And MLB said that it was bad discretion.
He's got all that going on in his head.
Probably.
I'm guessing.
And Boone's going to let them know.
He says, all right, so you guys are going to fucking look like assholes tonight.
Then MLB is going to come out and say better discretion.
Ejected bullshit.
I'm going to look like an asshole.
Yeah, you are.
Yeah, you are.
It'll be just like the other day on that bullshit play.
Have some fucking judgment.
Bullshit.
Have some fucking judgment.
Wait a second.
That's why we got together in field fly.
In field fly.
Well, that's the first out.
There's no fucking play over there.
That's fucking part of the game.
Okay, so what are the runners going to do?
Runners are going to score because he fucking ran into him.
Now what?
In field fly.
Batter's out.
Okay, then the runner goes to score because Soto ran into him.
Now what?
Yeah, but.
He drops the ball.
It goes to left field.
Bullshit.
Now what?
Runner's not running into him.
Now what, Aaron?
He's standing on the fucking back.
Who are you?
Who the fuck?
Who the fuck?
Who the fuck are you talking to like that?
Be fucking better than that play.
I am.
Bullshit.
That's what we have that rule for.
He's standing on the fucking back.
So they weren't really hearing each other out because Boone was saying that Soto's foot
was on the base, which nullifies it, and he's arguing that the runner could have ran and
scored, which is true.
All of that's true.
If you actually, you look at the replay with Volpe, as soon as this ball bounces and he
doesn't catch it, you see Volpe go, oh shit, should I go?
And if that's the case?
Yeah, that shouldn't count, but Volpe doesn't go, but Boone's not arguing that if this was
interference, it needs to be called.
Boone's arguing that Soto's foot was on the bag, therefore it's not interference because
he's on the back and Boone's wrong by this much.
The umpires are right by the letter of the law, but the rule is kind of stupid.
There should be like a advantage, like in soccer, like if Volpe scores, no, that doesn't
count.
Soto's not out, but no, you can't score because there was incidental contact or whatever the
hell.
I don't know.
It's tough to write rules.
I understand that.
Seems like they need to fix this one up a little bit, which is why bench coach Brad
Ausmus comes out and he's just like, hey, I want a rules check.
Yeah, I want a rules check.
That's what he says.
He's like, so if he's standing on the bag, he's not there.
What's going on?
And the umps are saying are what we're saying is he was not on the base.
So it's interference.
He's like, okay, he wasn't.
Oh, okay.
Well, can you guys look at it?
And Boone says, we can have you look at the fucking video, Vic.
Yeah.
Yeah.
And he's like, you don't think you don't think he's looked at it.
Shit.
Come on.
We've obviously looked at it already.
Vic, we've seen it.
All right.
All right.
When you walk out here, I'm going to wave my hands tomorrow and say, fuck my bad, Vic.
But if you're wrong, you better fucking say the same to me because you're acting like
I didn't.
I didn't just see it.
And I told you to look at it on video.
You guys don't even look at it.
Probably.
Why not go ask if he's on the bag?
What do you mean?
We got together.
Why don't you go ask?
Just go ask.
We didn't ask you if he was on the bag.
We asked twice.
We got together.
And Boone's saying, just go ask.
Okay.
Boone's like, let's go.
Let's just get out of here.
Fuck that.
This stinks.
I did ask Boone on our show.
Talking Yanks.
You said.
If I'm wrong.
I'll come out here tomorrow, wave my hands and say, my bad, Vic.
And then you said, you better do the same to me.
What happened after that?
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Thank you to baseball for writing rules that have their black and white, which allow a
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