CB Bucknor is a historically bad umpire, a breakdown marathon
What Happened
CB Bucknor missed multiple ball-strike calls, with the announcers even betting on whether Ollie Marmol or Torey Lovullo would get ejected first as both managers reacted to the strike zone. After a questionable strike call to Nolan Arenado, Marmol was ejected and came out to yell at Bucknor, saying he had been “horrible” the whole game and telling him to “go home and retire.”
Who / What Is Involved
Players: CB Bucknor.
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Click timestamps to jump to that momentWho gets ejected first? Ollie.
>> Yeah, I'm kind of with you on that one.
We'll see what happens though in this at
bat.
>> Let's see what happens in this at bat.
Maybe CB Bucknor misses a couple more
pitches because that's what he's been
doing all game, all career, and the
announcers know it so bad they're making
bets on which manager's going to get
ejected first. Let's watch what happens.
Outside, sure. One and one count from
Merrill Kelly. That one's low. Two and
one. That one's low. No, that's a
strike. Batter's like this. Umpire looks
at the manager like, "Got something to
say about that one?" Ollie's like, "No,
but yes." That one is a ball. Pitcher
and catcher like, "What?" He's like,
"Got something to say about that one?"
And Marmol's like, "No, but Torey
Lovullo is like, I think I do. I think
I'm mad at you here and and now you
understand what the broadcasters are
saying
when they're saying which one's going to
get ejected first.
Cuz he's just missing calls wildly on
both sides. And that's ball four. So, we
got a lead-off walk. And Kelly, the
pitcher, is like, "We shouldn't have a
lead-off walk.
This stinks."
All right, CB looking at St. Louis bench
and Torey Lovullo is like, "I got a
problem with you. Look at me. Look at
me.
Why are you picking it with him? I'm mad
at you. That's outside."
That one breaks away. That's outside.
Two and oh is the count. The next pitch,
that's up. It's a good pitch, but it's
up. So, 3-0. There you go, you got a
strike. And then
outside. They wanted that call. Maybe
it's outside. Ball two. And Torey
Lovullo is like, "Quit picking a fight
with him. I'm trying to pick a fight
with you because it's back-to-back walks
and now Goldy's up, MVP." Oh, okay.
Goldy's out, but Arenado's up. That
pitch is a ball inside. Strike. What?
Arenado with a double take, just a
fabulous double take. Hey!
You're gone.
leave. Marmol's going to come
get his money's worth. He's going to
say, "You've been horse the
whole game." CB's just going to stand
there, smirk, wipe the sweat off, let
him get you let him yell at him a little
bit. He says, "Oh for three." Whole
game. Been horrible. We got a
database on you. We don't know what
you're doing. Those guys over there,
they don't know what the you're
doing either. That's why you're not in
the game anymore.
>> You know why? You know why? Just as much
as you.
>> You know why? You know why? Just as you.
>> Just as much as you. Your time is done.
>> Your time is done.
>> You need to go home AND
RETIRE. YOU JUST GOT HERE.
>> YOU JUST GOT HERE.
>> YOU JUST GOT HERE.
>> YOU JUST GOT HERE.
>> YOU JUST GOT HERE.
>> YOU JUST GOT HERE.
>> YOU JUST GOT HERE.
>> YOU JUST GOT HERE.
>> YOU JUST GOT HERE.
>> KIDS WAVING GOODBYE IN THE BACK.
>> HE'S GOT HERE.
>> [sighs and gasps]
>> Marmol walks off. CB gets his pad out,
his pen out. Marmol goes to the
clubhouse. He says, "Okay, hmm.
What just happened? What was it again?
Oh, yeah. I missed some calls and we
debated over who is more involved in the
game, umpires or managers. And here's
the pitch a second time with the
announcers and their reaction to it,
Arenado's double take.
>> You got Cal Raleigh as the catcher. CB
Bucknor is the umpire. They're warming
up. Catcher just came out. You can see
CB Bucknor right here saying, "One more,
one more, one more." You can see the
infielder ready for the throw coming
down. But Cal throws it back to the
pitcher and CB says, "No, no. That's it.
That's it. I said one more." You know?
And Cal's like, "I said one more."
"I told you got one more. Throw it down.
And now they're arguing and C B
Bucknor's like, "No. No, enough. You
know the rules." And he's going to say,
"It's only one more pitch once you come
OUT HERE.
THAT'S IT.
That's the rules." Turns, knows the
manager's coming. Manager comes out, he
says, "Every time the catcher comes out,
he gets three. Everybody does the same."
No no no no no no.
>> Oh, wait a minute. The time doesn't
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>> YEAH, but once we wave the clock off,
you only get one more pitch.
>> Gallo shaking his head, Rowdy just
shaking his head. But it's once you come
out, one more pitch. That's all.
All right. Managers can't even respond,
just walks away, licks his lips. C B
licking his lips, tossing the ball,
feeling good about himself. No
ejections, just a dispute over warm-up
pitches. Necessary? Probably not.
What's the actual rule? Going to have to
check somewhere else. I didn't deem this
one
worthy of me checking.
Who cares? Top of the fourth inning and
Walker Buehler, my moxie king, is
locating his pitches. First pitch,
fastball or cut fastball maybe, right in
there. Next pitch,
curveball. Got him. O2, back to the
curve but inside, doesn't bite. Okay.
One, two, little cutter inside, doesn't
bite and then curve on the outside,
boom. Walker Buehler thinking, "I'm
nasty. I'm nasty. That was nice."
Walking around the mound feels good,
right? Next batter,
slider, cutter, whatever he calls it,
away, 1-0, fastball up and away, and
nice piece of hitting by Robles, I
believe, who goes with it for a double.
So, okay, first batter looked good, next
batter, whatever. He went with the
pitch. It was nice. Get him walk. Walker
Buehler, ooh, the eyes of J-Rod,
beautiful, beautiful eyes.
First pitch, oh, let's watch that again.
That's I don't know what he calls it, a
cutter, slider, whatever it is,
just a little excuse me. That's such an
odd
such an odd swing first pitch, cuz you
want to be like fully committed. It's
almost like a two-strike protect swing
out of J-Rod there, but I think he
thought it was going to go be a ball at
the last second. I don't know. He's got
him 0-1 on that swing. He follows it up
with a sinker, so fastball, two-seam
fastball, hard, 95 runs down. That's
nice, right? Let's watch it again. I'll
drag it slow.
Boom. You can see the way his fingers
are going to just slide off it almost
underneath it a little bit to get that
run, and look at that, just trailing and
trailing and diving. Got him 0-2 again.
Yeah, he's thinking, "I'm nasty. Look at
me. I'm doing everything I want to do
out here. This is a great inning. Screw
the double. I don't care. All right, I
went 80 mph sweeper. I went 95 fastball.
Let's go into another decade. Let's go
into the 70s. Let's uh back him up with
a curveball. So, here we go, and right
where he wants. Oh, that's a strike, CB.
Oh, not even close.
CB Bucknor saying, "It went around."
"Hey, hey, it went around."
"IT WENT AROUND. OH." Screaming back at
him, takes his Hey! HEY!
HEY! WHAT ARE YOU DOING? What's the
yelling about, CB? Huh?
What's that? What I'm just I'm trying to
protect my guy. So am I. So am I. Yeah,
I don't want to get I don't want to get
him ejected, either. That's why I'm
letting him know that went around, okay?
I'm CB Bucknor. People thought I was
going to be the worst ump ever after
Hernandez retired, but actually no. Laz
is taking a lot of heat off me. Got to
give credit to Roberts. He's always real
quick running out there to protect his
guys. One run game in the ninth inning,
strike one, strike on the swing, next
pitch tries for the same thing below the
zone, one in one count, then comes back
away with it. That's a nice pitch for
strike two. Both of the strikes
swinging, Chicago gets on their feet.
One more, baby. Let's do it. This guy,
he's like, okay, hm, hm, might as well
video tape it. Something cool might
happen. The one-two pitch, way away,
non-competitive waste pitch. CB Bucknor
looks at his ticker, says, okay, the
count is two and two. It's not what he
actually said. That is a ball low, but
they like the pitch. Looks at his ticker
again, and he says, okay, the count's
two and two.
The three-two pitch, outside,
and no one does anything. He looks at
his thing, and people from the dugout
are like, hey, that's ball four. The
batter has no idea, the catcher has no
idea. The pitcher thought he had the
strikeout, he has no idea. No one has
any idea.
Besides everybody besides the main
participants, nobody has any idea, and
probably cuz CB's been yelling out wrong
count, so he gets with his people, says,
what do you guys got? He's like, I had
two and two, but they're saying up there
that it was actually three and two,
and that was ball four.
Are you sure? What do you got? What do
you got? Anyone else know? They're like,
well, it's kind of your job, CB, and you
you yell it out and show us, and and
then we go off what you say. So,
oh, you what? And they're like, all
right, let's just go ask the replay
people if they can piece this puzzle
together. They got all the pitches.
Meanwhile, here's a review and no, no,
no, not a strike, not a strike, but no
one moves. No one even thinks about it.
The crowd kind of does. This guy wants
the strike real bad. STRIKE! STRIKE!
WHAT?
THOUGHT THE game was over.
>> Yeah, I think that's what Jeff Nelson
will tell us.
>> The pitch is ball four.
>> No kidding.
>> The pitch is ball four. No kidding.
Yeah, how about that? I'm going to bat
flip this walk. I knew it the whole
time. Why don't they beat by me? Taking
pitches, laying off. Can't hold me back.
The catcher's like, well, if you thought
it was 2-2 and we thought it was 2-2 and
he thought it was 2-2 and we we all act
as if it's a 2-2 pitch and we got one to
waste, I feel like it should be 2-2. I
don't think that's what Jan Gomes said,
but if this was like a backyard barbecue
whiffleball game, I think you would make
that argument. Like, dude, we all
thought it was 2-2, so doesn't that kind
of make it 2-2? You know, we were all
treating it that way. Anyway, now the
tying run is on first and you got Adley
up. He's pretty good. Fastball away.
Next pitch, fastball right down the
middle, one and one. And then a little
cutter or slider outside and CB calls it
a strike. And Adley's like, come on,
man, really? And he's like, uh, I do
that. I do that. And I talked about this
in the perfect uh game
that the umpire called in the World
Series and I specifically pointed out CB
Bucknor. See how his head is on the
inside? The umpires that do this, their
consistency on the outside is, for lack
of a better word, dog
Cuz they don't have the proper angle.
They're setting up inside on everything,
so the outside edge is always a dance.
So he calls that one a strike. Now he's
one strike away from this game ending
and CB's like, yeah, that's what I want.
I just need to get out of here. In play.
Gobbled up at second, throws to first
for the out and then you go, VAMOS COñO!
Fired up. Always is. Hat backwards. Fly
the W. The Cubs win. Umpire forgot to
count. CB Bucknor had himself a day. So,
whenever anyone asked me, "What umpire
do you think is going to suffer from the
automatic ball strike system?" I said,
"CB Bucknor." Him and the low strike
don't get along ever. Never have. So, we
had a lot of challenges. Elly De La Cruz
in the bottom of the sixth challenges
this one.
>> Batter is challenging the pitch.
>> Raspy voice from CB. I don't know if
that's always his voice, but here we go.
In the sixth inning, this is the first
challenge. Hit is a ball. We missed by
2.4 inches. So, that's pretty decent of
a miss. Not really on the edge there.
Way off it. And that led to a walk in
the bottom of the sixth inning. It's a
two-run game. There's a runner on first
already. You never know. Go look at the
differences between counts like in a 1-0
count and a 0-1 count. The end results
are drastic. So, every pitch really
matters in baseball. That's how it
works. The Reds have bases loaded.
Runner on first. Runner on second.
Runner on third. Ready to go. Geared up.
Ah, Eugenio Suárez. He's coming up a lot
these days, huh? He's up. First pitch,
he takes for a strike. Just a little
spinner down the middle. Then,
we're going to bend it in the other way.
Owen two. He's got to stay alive. He's
battling. He's fighting. He's fouling
balls off into the crowd. Is the wind
blowing or is the cameraman slow?
Another one on the inside. CB says ball.
Great call. And then, gets him again.
Strike three. Suárez says, "I I tap. I
tap. I challenge. I want to challenge
that. I think you got it wrong."
Immediately, he heard CB winding up his
call. "Whoa, down. No, no, no, no, no,
no, no. Yeah, yeah, I want to challenge
it. Yes."
>> Batter is challenging the pitch.
>> So, we got another one. We're looking at
strike three here with the bases loaded.
No, we're not. We're looking at a ball
that missed low by 0.3 inches. That's
all at least closer. Like a human can't
do that. The very next pitch, CB rings
him up again. He says, "No! No, CB.
That's twice!"
>> Batter's challenging the pitch.
>> Right away, the crowd is going crazy as
this comes on the Jumbotron. Oh my god,
that one is outside again. It's not
strike three. It's 1.1 inches off the
plate. The crowd erupted. CB's just
going to stand there and eat it as the
crowd is just going crazy at his demise.
And again, we had an instant challenge.
CB couldn't even finish his call. He's
trying to punch him out. Before he can
even do it, Suarez taps his helmet. Look
at these two punch-outs. The one on the
left is the first one. CB does it very
emphatically. The one on the right is
the second one and it's just a little
sadder. A little like, do I even trust
myself anymore? Bam! That's the first
one. All right. Now, watch the second
one. He never even takes his eye off
Suarez cuz he knows it's coming. Like,
look at the first one.
He turns his head completely and gets
into IT. OH, BAM!
BAM! BAM! And then the second one, he is
just kind of a little more sad and he
never turns his head into his usual
call. He just looks at him the whole
time and then goes, "Oh, shit." All
right. So, it's a 3-2 pitch. This could
be game-changing. We could break it
open. Instead, we get a ground ball
ground out for the third out. So, it
didn't change much besides the pitch
count and the momentum in the stadium a
little bit. We go to the bottom of the
seventh inning and now Benson, another
tall player, immediately challenges the
1-0 pitch. CB's like, "What?" He's like,
"Yeah, I want to challenge it. Please."
>> Batter's challenging the pitch.
>> Uh-oh, CB, your voice
sounds raspy. I don't know if that's how
you normally sound or not. That's a ball
low, so it's a great challenge by
Benson, who has been getting that called
a strike at him all game. I'll show you
those in a little bit. It's almost an
inch below the zone. Now CB's like, this
is This isn't fun. The 2-0 pitch, that's
way below the zone. The 3-0, strike.
He's like, no, I'm going to challenge
that one, too. Yeah, yeah, yeah, I'm
going to challenge it. Yes, I'm
challenging it. CB's like, it was 3-0, I
opened the zone up. He's like, well,
that's not part of the game anymore. The
strike zone is the strike zone and you
can't change it. And CB's like, please,
please, please Oh my god, that one
missed
low and away. Whenever they have to do
this horizontal line, that means you
done botched it. Bad. 2 and 1/2 inches.
It wasn't high enough, nor was it over
the plate. It missed two ways.
Ooh, the little kid's just giving him a
ton behind his back and he's just
sitting there thinking like, this I have
no control anymore. I'm supposed to have
control of the game. And now I all of
the control I just feel like in I
Where's my control of the game gone? I
need to do something to make me feel in
control of this game again. And now
Trevor Story comes up. We're on the
eighth inning of a one-run game. There's
two outs, there's two on. Trevor Story
looking to do some damage here, give his
team the lead. He fouls that one down
the third baseline, so already in a
hole, 0 and 1. Then swings and misses at
that one up top, so he's 0-2. Staying
alive. Fouls it back. Going, going,
going. Wind or camera? What do you
think? Cuz the balls are outpacing the
camera. Now Trevor Story, 0-2. Got a
battle. Got a battle. What's he looking
at? Got a battle. Stays alive. CB says,
no, you went. You went. He doesn't ask
for help, he just says, he says, I'm
telling you you went all the way. Says,
your bat went all the way out there.
Your bat WENT ALL THE WAY OUT THERE.
YOUR BAT WENT ALL THE WAY OUT THERE.
YOUR BAT WENT ALL THE WAY OUT
THERE.
>> Come on.
Story is pissed cuz it's the second time
CB rung him up this game without asking
for help. I'll show you that in a
second. Cora comes out and he said in
his postgame, "I'm you have to check
with the first base umpire." Cora's
saying, "So, check with him."
Your job is to put calls in place. So,
CHECK WITH THEM.
>> I HAD HIM GOING ALL THE WAY.
>> [laughter]
>> Uh and he gets ejected. And it's just a
soft toss and Cora's pissed. And yeah,
so here's all the other check swings in
the game where CB Bucknor decided, "I'll
I'll check with the first base umpire.
That's his job. I call balls and
strikes. He's the one that does that."
And he went down there a lot of times
besides twice. One on Trevor Story and
another on Trevor Story. The first one
then that's the second one we just
watched later on in the game, another.
And had he gone to the first base ump to
get the call, let's see what he's been
saying. First base ump said that this
one
he said, "No. No swing." And this one
also first base ump said, "No swing."
And then we keep going. On that one he
said, "Yeah, I got you." On this one
again, right away he says, "Got you. You
swung." Now this one we don't even get
it asked. That's the first Story one, no
ask. Second Story one, the one we're
talking about, no ask. And this one the
uh first base ump says, "Swung." So,
let's look at these back-to-back. The
one on the bottom, the first base umpire
said, "No swing." So, if CB had gone to
the first base umpire the top one which
is the one CB did not ask for help and
the one that they're arguing about, what
would it have been called? Cuz the
bottom one got called no swing. They're
very similar. I think if he goes to
first base ump and if the first base
umpire's consistent, that's probably not
a swing. Now this is the Ellie one that
was no swing. And the top one again, the
one that CB did not ask for help. And
they're standing over the plate in
different areas. It's hard to see where
the plate actually is, but yeah, they
don't really come forward that much.
Now, here's an overlay of those, and
very similar.
And here's an overlay of Ellie and
Story, and very similar. Now, to be fair
to CB, the first time he called it, and
he didn't ask for help, that is on the
bottom here, and it is, you know, much
more of a swing, cuz the bat head is all
the way out there. There's no real rule
here at all. It's not It's just
subjective like the strike zone that
used to be. The strike zone is not that
way anymore, and CB's missing those days
when it was subjective. It was just his
decision. He had control, because want
to know something? They could have
overturned 15
other calls in this game. They got five
overturned. They could have had 20 if
they wanted. All of these were called
strikes, but had they been challenged,
the system would have said, "No ball."
And you can't argue. You can't be like,
"Well, Jimmy, I don't know. That's kind
of close." Like, I don't think he does
that. The strike zone's the strike zone
now.
Per the numbers, these would all have
been overturned. I think MLB has to
allow them three chances at this,
because people are so scared of getting
that first one wrong. We want pitches
called correctly. If it's too hard for a
human to do it, put the system in play.
That's my take. But I I'm getting
frustrated how many times they're not
challenging. Like, CB was awful all
game. They didn't hold him accountable
until the sixth inning. He missed 15
that they could have overturned. They
overturned five.
There were only 80 pitches that did not
get swung at
in the shadow zone, meaning balls on the
edges that did not get swung at in the
shadow zone. There were 80 of them. He
missed 20.
That means
calls that we needed umpire. Again, if
the batter swings, you don't need an
umpire. If the ball hits the dirt, if
it's way above their head, way inside,
way outside, you don't need the umpire.
If it's right down the middle, you don't
need the umpire. We need an umpire to
call balls on the edges that are, you
know, right there or right not there.
It's so hard for a human to do.
There were 80 of them. CB Bucknor missed
20. One in four calls.
That's so bad. CB Bucknor did it again.
Blew a call and it was surprising
somehow in the way he blew it. I've got
some footage that hasn't been seen
before, some new angles. Excited to
share them with you. Let's dive in.
We're in the sixth inning of a two-run
game. There's two outs. Brewers and
Rays. Remember they had a big brawl a
couple years ago? That was fun. 2-0
pitch is smoked, knocked down by the
second baseman, but then thrown away.
With these The Rays say, "Hey, give me
the ball. This play's not dead. I don't
think he touched first base." says the
Rays first baseman. And CB Bucknor calls
him out. The first baseman
The first baseman thinks he has to go
tag him.
He steps on the bag there, but he
doesn't think that that's
when he's going to get him out. CB
Bucknor says, "Out." First baseman is
like, "What? Okay." And CB's like, "I
already called him out." And then he
tags him and everyone's like, "What's
going on?
What's going on?" Then you're going to
see CB walk in. This is footage we got
that hasn't been seen and he's he asks
the home plate umpire, he says, "Did he
touch the bag?
Did he touch the bag?
Uh did you see him touch the bag?" Home
plate umpire is like, "Well, CB, you
called him out." He's like, "Yeah, I had
him not touching the bag." He's like,
"Well, then he's out." "Yeah, so you
have to call him out." "Yeah." "Okay,
yeah, you're right."
>> Call on the field is that the batter
runner did not touch first base
and then was put out.
>> 15 seconds on the clock for you guys to
challenge and trust me,
you're going to want to challenge some.
Letting you know right away, you've got
15 seconds on the clock to challenge.
Look at the first base coach, gives him
the confused dog look. Huh?
What?
UH BOWERS LIKE, "COME ON, CB. You crazy?
What do you What?"
You say you didn't touch the bag?
What? Everyone's looking at the replay.
Okay, let's see. Did he touch the bag?
What's happening here? Did he step on
the white the big white? Yeah. Okay, and
CB surely saw that cuz he's looking
right AT THE PLAYER. OH,
HE'S NOT looking
at the one place he should be looking.
Maybe that's why he missed it. Well,
what could have happened? Cuz he's
getting in position, he's looking at the
throw goes away, and he goes, "Oh." Look
at him. So funny. He just gets
distracted by the ball going away. Right
there, he just starts following the
ball.
And by the time he looks back, right
there,
he's he's off past the bag.
It's unbelievable. They go, "Well, how
did he miss that?" And then they show
the replay, and you're like, "Oh, cuz he
didn't look at it." So, he's getting in
the position, getting in the position,
the ball is awry,
and then he follows the ball.
Look at his It's just so perfect.
It's so perfect. It's unbelievably
perfect. That's
why it's so surprising, cuz CB isn't a
perfectionist. And this is perfect. It's
the perfect way to to miss a call. You
don't look at the one thing you're
supposed to be looking at. You get
distracted by the ball flying there. So,
they they quickly come back for replay.
>> After review, he's safe. The call's
overturned. Milwaukee retains their
challenge.
>> Uh
and Bowers is just laughing, and CB's
like, "Okay, well, yeah, I knew I missed
it. Don't blame me. I mean, I went and
asked." And the manager is just looking
at it. You're like, "What?" [laughter]
I mean, look at these like serious
faces. Then I kind of Cash is like,
"What the hell?" Looking at manager of
the Brewers, Murphy looks at him like,
"I don't know, man. I mean, that's CB
for you." He's like, "What?" He's like,
"Yeah." I mean, so CB's giving laughter
to the people, which is great and good
medicine. And the hats coming off are
scratching their head like, "What the
hell just happened?" And yeah, I do have
a little bit of a problem
with baseball MLB in this way. If the
umpire,
you know, we're all human. If an umpire
looks away,
they miss it.
There's something wrong with the either
MLB, the infrastructure put in, or the
union like
CB Bucknor should just go, "Hey, this is
an umpire's challenge. I'm not positive.
I I I botched it. I looked away."
They shouldn't force another team to
risk one of their challenges, cuz we
know they love to say call stands, even
though that's egregious. But if you're
an umpire and you're not sure, why can't
they just go, "Oh, this is going to be
an umpire's decision" at any point in
the game?
I think that that would be the best
thing to do.